. >> jack quinn is the white house counsel under bill clinton. he went onto cable a lot and defended the president during a lot of his campaign finance problems during his two terms. he met ed gillespie, who was then a republican operative in green rooms. they had this green room friendship. people become friends. and in ed and jack's case, they went into business together. they started quinn gillespie, the first real major sort of bipartisan lobbying firm. >> one stop lobbying. >> one stop lobbying. you want to deal with republicans, you want to get to republicans, you go here. you want to get to democrats, you go here. they founded them so they -- their firm's founded in 2000. jack quinn got into some trouble in 2001 after he successfully lobbied bill clinton to pardon his law client, marc rich. >> fugitive. >> fugitive marc rich. there was a big to-do then. jack was big time in the barrel. he's hauled before congress. he feels like he's being looked at in restaurants. and ed gillespie said, "look, jack, in a few months everyone's going to forg